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Ammop Boxes WAS Wet Boxes: How does it get in there?

5 messages in this thread | Started on 2004-09-23

Re: Ammop Boxes WAS Wet Boxes: How does it get in there?

From: Rose Halter (rosmarinus@nrcengineering.com) | Date: 2004-09-23 19:48:52 UTC

Regarding the suggestion to use metal ammo boxes, I'm trying to
picture NattyBumppo using them for his urban boxes in Washington, DC,
or the person who placed a box at the Canadian border behind a
utility box.


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> Much of it is condensation. Also, rubbermaid style containers
> generally weren't designed for outdoor use. Although in the
> refrigerator and freezer they hold up a good seal, outdoors you
have
> constant temperature swings. Each time as the plastic shrinks or
> swells, moisture is allowed in. As far as plastic containers go,
the
> high-end containers hold up better than your cheap dollar store
> variety do. They're usually thicker and have a more secure seal.
>
> Metal ammo boxes usually do an excellent job of keeping things dry.
> Their major downfalls though include they can be pricey depending
on
> where you are and in urban areas, they can set off a "bomb scare"
> (Even though a bomb could just as easily be in a plastic
container.).
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "thedoubtfulguests"
> wrote:
> > What could be more disheartening than finding a box full of water
> > and a soaked, ruined log? Kudos to all for efforts to double bag
> > wherever we go.
> >
> > I have seen many boxes with a lot of water in them. Many of
these
> > are good freezer style Rubbermaid containers that appear to be
> > sealed well. How does the water get in there?
> >
> > - Not really sealed well?
> > - Not closed tight?
> > - Temperature changes and humidity?
> > - Condensation?
> > - Do bigger boxes with lots of air allow more condensation?
> > - Do paper towels and paper pages attract it?
> > - Flooding?
> > - Do we have to test new boxes before planting them?
> >
> > My mind imagines a body farm with letterboxes scattered about for
> > testing.
> >
> > Scarab


Re: Ammop Boxes WAS Wet Boxes: How does it get in there?

From: nattybumppolbna (nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-25 04:14:57 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Halter"
wrote: Regarding the suggestion to use
metal ammo boxes, I'm trying to picture NattyBumppo using
them for his urban boxes in Washington, DC, or the person who
placed a box at the Canadian border behind a utility box. >>

How did I get dragged into this?

I am currently buying surplus public phones and ATMs to hide
my urban boxes in. It's a little pricey, but less stressful in DC and
NYC.

I used to make homemade dessicant bags for some sensitive
field electronics I work with. The silica gel crystals are available
in larger inexpensive quantities as closet/basement
dehumidifiers. You just need to make a air-permeable sachet.
(The teabag idea is great)

The problem is that the silica gel holds the moisture. It doesnt
evaporate so you get a little bag of goop in your box. You will
need to swap them out fairly frequently. They are quite
poisonous I am told so dispose carefully.

Natty Bumppo



Re: Ammop Boxes WAS Wet Boxes: How does it get in there?

From: Sissy n CR (cr@sc.rr.com) | Date: 2004-09-25 21:45:26 UTC

> The problem is that the silica gel holds the moisture. It doesnt
> evaporate so you get a little bag of goop in your box. You will
> need to swap them out fairly frequently. They are quite
> poisonous I am told so dispose carefully.


I don't know if it's the same kind of desiccant, but I was an
electronics tech in the Navy. We had a desiccant that turned color
when it got too saturated. (I as used in a piece of gear that had to
be absolutely dry.) You could bake it in the oven for a length of
time until it turned white again and reuse it. Might work with
yours, as well.


Re: Ammop Boxes WAS Wet Boxes: How does it get in there?

From: nattybumppolbna (nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-27 01:39:19 UTC


Interesting. But if it was made for the Navy, it's probably $300 an
oz.


> I don't know if it's the same kind of desiccant, but I was an
> electronics tech in the Navy. We had a desiccant that turned
color
> when it got too saturated. (I as used in a piece of gear that had
to
> be absolutely dry.) You could bake it in the oven for a length of
> time until it turned white again and reuse it. Might work with
> yours, as well.


Re: Ammop Boxes WAS Wet Boxes: How does it get in there?

From: nattybumppolbna (nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-27 01:39:45 UTC


Interesting. But if it was made for the Navy, it's probably $300 an
oz.


> I don't know if it's the same kind of desiccant, but I was an
> electronics tech in the Navy. We had a desiccant that turned
color
> when it got too saturated. (I as used in a piece of gear that had
to
> be absolutely dry.) You could bake it in the oven for a length of
> time until it turned white again and reuse it. Might work with
> yours, as well.